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Shirley Sherrod: Special Comment

Wednesday, July 21st, 2010

In the midst of Lebron moving to South Beach, the ongoing Epic Fail that is the BP oil spill, Lindsey Lohan going on vacation to  prison, and Mel Gibson saying “FML” in only so many words… a bigger news story managed to emerge this week.

As most of you may know, Shirley Sherrod, a U.S. Department of Agriculture official, was fired forced to resign and offered her job back in 48 hours.  A video of her giving a speech was edited to portray her as a black woman, in a position of power, using this power to exercise reverse racism against a white farmer.  She was painted as not helping the white farmer out because of his skin color and “superior attitude.”  (The events she recalled in the speech occurred 24 years prior)

That’s when fhit hit the san.  Things got real.  The plot thickened.  Fallout occurred:  The NAACP condemned her.  The White House, in an attempt to jump on the situation before Glenn Beck, threw her under the bus.  The media, primarily Fox News,  judged her faster than the word “prejudice” itself.  When the facts came out, and the full video surfaced, her speech was actually one of reconciliation, self-reflection, and the plight of poor people… regardless of skin color.  Oh, and it also helped that the very white farmer she was accused of discriminating against 24 years ago said she helped save his farm, and that she deserved her job back.

On Wednesday afternoon, Mrs. Sherrod was apologized to by the president of the NAACP, her superior at the department of agriculture (Mike Vilsack), and the White House.  She was also offered her job back.

Now that this story has reached its climax, what is there to say?  I believe Keith Olbermann said it best in the video below:

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Black or White: Negro & Post Racial America…

Sunday, January 24th, 2010

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The election of Barack Obama was predicted to have ushered in a new, post-racial society.  In this post-racial society, color or race would no longer matter.  Are we there yet?

Not so fast, I would say.  In the past year, we have witnessed the controversial arrest of Professor Henry Louis Gates, The Beer Summit, President Jimmy Carter’s comments on hostility toward President Obama, members of the Tea Part, and Harry Reid’s comments.  Race matters, and it matters even more in the type of post-racial America that I see.

I don’t see a post-racial America where racism no longer exists.  The truth of the matter is that racism will always exist as long as evil exists.  I do, however, see a post-racial America where minorities are on track to being the majority; and more Americans will no longer view themselves as simply “black” or “white.”  I see the rise of multi-ethnic groups.

A recent Time article brings up the issue of the term, “Negro,” being used on the U.S. Census (View the article here). The article discusses many changes that the U.S. Census will be testing with the 2010 Census.  One of the possible changes is allowing respondents to check more than one box for race and Hispanic origin. Also, those who check “black” or “white” will be allowed to write in more specific information.

For years, through the eyes of racism, one drop of black blood meant that you were black.  Blue eyes and 0.001% melanin?  Yep, you’re white.

But if this change is implemented in the 2010 Census, bi-racial children will no longer have to identify with one group.  People of Arab descent will have a voice.  German-Irish?  Write it in.  Afro-Cuban?  Come on down.  Korean mother and Afro-Mexican father?  You’re invited too.  It’s a racial smorgasbord!

I pose two questions: 1) What is your vision of a post-racial America?  2) What race(s)/ethic groups do you identify with?

Ask a Black Guy, Pt. 1

Friday, September 25th, 2009

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As promised, The Conference Call presents to you the counter to, “Ask a White Guy.”  Today, white people get to ask the questions. 

This is how a dialogue on race should go in America.

And with that… Ask a Black Guy:

1.  Define “black.”  

Kev:  Traditionally, I would define black as someone of African descent.  Historically, mixed people, who have a parent of African descent, are considered black.  So you can be a dark-skinned person, of African descent, born & raised in France your whole life… and still be considered “black” and not European.  That’s what history says… one drop of “black” blood makes you black.  History also says black people tend to be more soulful.  So anyone who shows any semblance of being soulful is considered black or “being down.”  See: Justin Timberlake (before he bailed on Janet), Eminem, Joss Stone, etc.

Trillionaire Wood:  Black to me transcends race.  It’s a culture.  It’s a culture of people that obviously have African ancestry.  From there I believe black would be a group of people that have endured a struggle to gain their rightful place as equals in this country.  Through that struggle we have had those that thrive and become better citizens and we have those that have become bitter citizens.  Some productive, some not, some were proud, some were not.  From that black culture you have several subcultures… Hip hop, blues, northern blacks, southern blacks…etc.   All of these things have their place in the main culture of being black.  And some of these cultures have accepted other races as a part of them.

2.  Are there degrees of “blackness?”  Why?

Kev:  If this is my politically correct answer, then no.  See #1. 

Honestly though… YES.  You have:

1) Clarence Thomas black aka Uncle Tom – blacks who seem to have forgotten the historic struggles of black people, and who “act white.”  Also, see: Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks.

2) Barack Obama black – This type of black is the embodiment of MLK.  Honest, hard working people who are aware of the historic struggles of black people, and actually do something about it.  But it doesn’t begin and end there.  This type of black is aware of the greater good in the world, and works toward that.  Race isn’t an issue.  .  They can attend an NAACP & NRA meeting in the same day, and leave to hang out with their white friends at a bar.  Basically, we’re just trying to make it like you.

3) Overly-Militant Blacks:  See Ku Klux Klan and state militias in Montana, Michigan, and Mississippi… but they’re black. 

4) N*ggas – the black equivalent to white trash.  I’m sure we’ve seen both on Maury, but Maury likes to show one more so than the white counterpart.

Trillionaire Wood:  I believe you meant this question to mean by being of a lighter or darker shade does it make your more or less black.  That question is hard to answer.  I will say it depends on who you ask.  There has always been a battle inside of our culture based on shades of darkness.  This can go back to slavery time when lighter skin blacks did not have to labor as hard as darker skinned blacks.  I think people who try to credit being black with having a struggle would say yes because they believe lighter skin blacks have it easier than darker skinned blacks.  The fact that you mention lighter skinned blacks when naming women you found attractive would perpetuate that stereotype.  They think lighter skinned black women have it easier in the world because they are more accepted.  There are also the people that believe that there are certain levels of acting black.  If you listen to rock music and watch certain shows you are not “black enough”.  I find both of those things a load crap.  Like I said before being black is a culture.  Even if we have differing degrees of struggle that doesn’t make you less black and because you like certain things that aren’t the norm in your culture doesn’t make you less black.  The only time I would say there are degrees of blackness would come from your level of pride in who you are.  If you try to forget that you are black then you are less black to me.  Why?  Because at that point you are pushing away your culture.

3.  Do you believe that if you work hard, you can succeed at whatever you put or set your mind to?  Do you believe that most other Black people agree or disagree with you?

Kev:  Of course.  That’s the American Dream.  I believe most other Black people agree, but there is a subconscious reality that we have to work twice as harder.  Some just totally cop out and blame it on “the man.”

Trillionaire Wood:  I believe I can because I know who made me and with that what I’m capable of.  I would say it’s 50/50.  I think at one time most Black people did feel that way.  But you have to understand only 45 years ago we weren’t equal citizens in this country, so it would be hard for people to get out of that mindset.  I think since Obama has become president the ideas of black people being able to do what they set their mind to is become more of a reality.  But again that goes back to your degrees of blackness.  Some people believe he was only able to get their because of his degree of blackness.

4.  How have you encountered racism personally? 

Kev:  I’ve encountered racism from subtle to overt.

Trillionaire Wood:  Yes, I have both subtly and outright.  I have been called everything from the “n” word to a “coon”. And there are times when people have not treated me the same because of my skin color.

5.  Why is every disagreement or criticism automatically labeled as racially motivated?  Is it the perception of the black people or media sensationalism?

Kev:  Let’s look at it this way.  Blacks and America have a funny relationship.  We were once your sex slaves (slavery).  Then you decided to date us, but treated us like crap (segregation and Civil Rights struggle).  Then you married us, but still treated us like crap (Civil Rights passing).  Now we’re still married, but every once in a while you come in around 5:00 AM, but ask us to trust you.  So it’s not that everything is racially motivated.  It’s just that the wound is kind of, sort of still healing.  The media is just the nosey neighbor in the middle of our marital woes.

Trillionaire Wood:  I don’t think “every” disagreement or criticism is labeled that way, but quite a few do.  And I think that goes back to the idea that we know racism exist and you have to call those things out to keep them from slipping through the cracks.  I think it’s a little of both.  Black people’s perception which I think has diminished of the years and Media sensationalism that has increase by an alarming rate.

6.  Chicken and waffles?  

Kev:  Yes.  Also chicken & spaghetti.  It’s great.

Trillionaire Wood:  I have never had them together.  But they are both very tasty.

7.  Stereotypes exist for a reason.  Agree or disagree?  Is there a difference in the validity in good stereotypes, i.e. “Black people love chicken and watermelons” vs. “Black people are better at sports?”

Kev:  I agree.  But the reasons aren’t good.  You may assume the black guy in baggy jeans who just walked into your store is going to shoplift.  I may assume that the white manager is cooking the books.  Stereotypes should be thrown out, and we should look at each person on a case-by-case basis… as hard as it sounds… easier said than done.  But as MLK said, we should judge each man by the “content of his character.”

Trillionaire Wood:  Yes stereotype exist for a reason.  They exist to keep people close-minded.  I think any generalization is bad whether it talks up a race or talks down a race.  There are always people who break the norm.  By stereotyping you close the door to meeting a lot of good people and doing a lot of good things.  (BTW I love chicken and watermelon and if you don’t I have to wonder about you.)

8.  What is your biggest criticism of white people?  Of black people?

Kev:  White people seem to have an underlying sense of entitlement. 

Trillionaire Wood:  I think white people take stuff to lightly.  I think black people take stuff that doesn’t matter too seriously and stuff that does matter too lightly.

9.  What do you see as black people’s greatest strength?  

Kev:  See #5.  We’re strong.  And despite what this country has put us through, we’re loyal.

Trillionaire Wood:  Perseverance.

10.  What must young black people do to break the cycle?

Kev:  Young black people need to become as successful as possible, and reach back to lend a hand or pass knowledge down to those who need it.  Each one should teach one.

Trillionaire Wood:  What cycle are you referring to?

11.  What do you feel that “white people,” “the government,” or “society” owes black people for historical wrongs?  

Kev:  White people, the government, and/or society owe us nothing… nothing but a fair playing field.  We just want the same opportunity to succeed as the next man.  We have made great strides in leveling the playing field.  Some believe that unleveled playing field never existed.  Some believe the playing field is finally leveled being that we have recently elected our nation’s first black president. 

Trillionaire Wood:  I don’t think anybody owes us anything.  I wasn’t around when it happened and neither were the “white people” ,”the government”, or “society” that exist now.  And there are numerous tools out there now for black people to get ahead so they just need to take advantage.

12.  Your thoughts on white women and interracial relationships?  3 you find attractive.

 Kev:  I don’t discriminate.  There are beautiful women of all races, colors, etc.  So of course, I’m all for interracial relationships as long as you and that person are right for each other. 

 Three white women I find attractive?  Mila Kunis, Hayden Panettierre, and Jessica Biel.  I need to throw an older woman in there, so I’ll go with Diane Lane. 

 Trillionaire Wood:  Only three? Hmmm…

 Christina Hendricks

Jessica Biel

Scarlet Johannson

… And there you have it.  Join the conversation.  What questions have you always wanted to ask a black person?

Ask a White Guy, Pt. 1.

Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009

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With the Joe Wilson incident, racism in America has become a hot button issue.  Well, we wanted to open up dialogue with a friendly Q&A on the Conference Call.

With that said, we’re starting a new series: Ask a White Guy.  It’s sort of a spin off of the Chappelle Show’s “Ask a Black Guy” skit with Paul Mooney.  We’ll come up with a list of questions that black people have always wanted to ask white people, have C-Mac & Rice answer, and then we’ll post the questions and answers.  We’ll then flip it and do an Ask a Black Guy segment/series, where Chris and Jeff can ask Wood & Kev some questions white people have always wanted to know about black people.

This is the real dialogue America should be having on race.  Let’s get to it:

Do your friends sometimes call black people the “n” word when black people aren’t around?

C-Mac: I do, but I’m probably the only one.  But I’ll also use it when black people I know are around.

Rice: I’d have to say that I have on rare occasion I have heard the term used when black people aren’t around usually in reference to an especially ignorant breed of human being who happens to be black.  I would have to say that I’ve done this myself, though usually when alone.

Do you sometimes watch shows like Flava of Love, I Love New York, etc, and laugh AT us?

C-Mac: Absolutely.  But I also watch Rock of Love and laugh at US.   If you don’t laugh at Flava Flav, something’s wrong with you.  But as Katt [Williams] said, you can learn something from everyone.

Rice: The only times I have “watched” those shows it seemed like the white chicks were crazier than Flav.  That takes some doing, but mostly I just shake my head and turn the channel.

Two part question:  Do you ever fantasize about being with a black woman?  Name 3 black women who you find attractive.

C-Mac:  Yes.  Thandie Newton, Halle Berry… I was going to go with Vanessa Williams, but I am going way back to the first black girl I remember crushing on… Jasmine Guy… WHITLEY!

Rice: On occasion I have thought about it.  I am a fan of Women in general.  Only 3?  Okay:  Zoe Saldana, Halle Berry, Jada Pinkett-Smith …I also had a thing for Lisa Bonet back in the day… and Mariah Carey I also find attractive though she does have the whole crazy thing going on. Queen Latifah is very pretty and extremely talented…Sorry, couldn’t stop at three…I like women :)

Who is one black person you admire?

C-Mac: First thought was Denzel, but I’m going to go with Queen Latifah.  Props to Whoopi too though.  And Katt [Williams], for adopting all those kids… ;)

Rice: Living?  Bill Cosby.  Maya Angelou. Dead?  Martin Luther King Jr.

There are others, but I’m trying to do better about staying within the parameters of the question ;)

Do you believe racism still exists?

C-Mac: Absolutely.  And it probably always will.  I think there’s less than there was, and that’s the definition of progress.

Rice: Absolutely it still exists.  I don’t think that it is prevalent as it once was, nor do I think that it is as big a factor in the stupid things that some people do as it is often made out to be (sadly I believe in stoopid people) but it is there.  I wish it wasn’t the case, but as long as there is ignorance there will be racism, and sadly there is no cure for deliberate ignorance.

Do you get nervous when you get pulled over by a cop?

C-Mac: I understand the basis of the question, but I think everyone gets nervous when they get pulled over.  I was asked to get out of a car one b/c I was wearing suspicious clothing…a large Starter Jacket in December.

Rice: Yes, but mostly because I can’t really afford to pay a ticket at the moment and I drive a red coupe, so probably not for the implied reasons…and I don’t have long hair so that’s in my favor too.

Have you ever had pig feet or chitterlings?

C-Mac: No, and I don’t plan to.  I don’t like hot dogs either.

Rice: No, but I would try them if they were offered to me…at least once.  I love trying new things.

What exactly is hooking up?  Is it actual intercourse or is it just making out?

C-Mac:  I don’t really hear people saying “hooked up with” much anymore, but when I did, it was making out.

Rice: I think that I’ve mostly heard it in the context of intercourse…making out has always been either making out or “muggin’ down”

Do you believe affirmative action should be abolished?

C-Mac: Yes.  It’s reverse discrimination.  I honestly believe there is a wealth of opportunity out there for anyone who wants it, and the worse your situation, the more aid there is available.

Rice:  Yes.  MLK’s dream was that we would all be judged, “not by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character.”  Setting quotas I don’t believe is the answer.  Setting standards I believe is.  Holding everyone to the same standard of excellence and the same standard of behavior regardless of skin color or political leaning.

When you go to a place of business, and you see a black person behind the counter, do you automatically assume you’re going to get bad service?  Because sometimes we assume the same thing!  LOL

C-Mac: I never assume, and I’m never surprised.  I assume there are two kinds of people behind most counters…those working their way to something better, and those that are there because they aren’t smart enough to do anything else…some people do a good job, some don’t…

Rice: Not usually.  I tend to look at the overall appearance.  Shirt tucked in, hair in place, someone who looks like they care what they look like, etc. I tend to expect good service.  Glassy expression, slack jaw, slurred speech, bad grammar?  I tend to expect to have to contact the manager to get anything right.  Lately I’ve had more non-black people fail to give good service.

How many true black friends do you have?

C-Mac: TRUE friends?  Three.  And one white girl that thinks she’s black, and has the junk in the trunk to back it up.  ;)

Rice: I feel like I can count the two of you, despite the fact that we’ve only actually met the one time, but honestly I don’t have a large group of people I consider “true friends.”  The total can probably be counted without taking off my shoes. : -)

So there you have it… A few answers to some of the questions black people have wanted to know about white people.  What are some more questions that you have always wanted to ask a white person?  Join the discussion and leave a comment with your questions!  Your question just might appear on the next Ask a White Guy series!

At Home While Black & Police Acting “Stoopidly”…

Thursday, July 23rd, 2009

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Kev: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/22/harvard.gates.interview/index.html

As most of you know, Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates was arrested at his home in Cambridge, MA.  President Obama said, in response to a question at a press conference, that the officer acted stupidly.  The officer has said that there will be no apology, and his department has said he acted according to his training.  Should there be an apology?  Did Gates bring this upon himself?  Was he belligerent?  Should the president have made such a comment?  Why did Chris homo Chromo on Good Morning America this morning ask the mayor of Cambridge how she felt about Obama saying her department was stupid? 

C-Mac: I watched Obama last night, and again, I thought he did a good job…until this.  I think for him to use the word stupid was stupid.  Very bad choice.  He wasn’t there.  I dunno what happened, honestly.  It’s just a shame that it was immediately a racial issue.  Seems like the same few people (Sharpton vowed to be at the arraignment…shocker) are continuously looking for a cross to bear…  Maybe the cops were pricks, maybe the prof was already irritated from locking himself out, and wasn’t cooperative initially.  I wasn’t there, and refuse to side with either group.  There are two equally believable sides to this story, and as such, seems like Chris McDaniel in Little Rock, AR should stay the heck out of it, like everyone else who’s not in Cambridge Mass should.

Wood: Well I’m going to speak on it. All I know is that the man had the proper ID and that should have been the end of it.  I would have been irate as well.

I feel like anyone would good mad if someone came to their house and accuse them of breaking in.  Look at the picture.  Does this look like a man that has broke into this house?  Then after he showed the idea the police took it upon themselves to still arrest him because he was acting disorderly in a public place (aka his yard).  It’s some bull.  Now I show you ID that says I live there.  That should have been the end of it.  But instead you ask for my Harvard ID.  That’s still not enough you call Harvard to verify this.  Now common sense would tell you I didn’t go have 2 forms of ID printed up to do a simple home invasion.   I would be pissed at his stupidity too and would probably call him everything but a child of God. 

C-Mac: If the circumstances were more as you described, then probably so.

If he was of the same mindset as Sharpton and immediately threw a fit b/c he was black and they were harassing him, then maybe not.  I wasn’t there.  I can see him being irritated, while the cops were responding to a legitimate complaint.  Someone did break into his house, and the neighbors reported it. 

Even if he was mouthy, I would agree that if he didn’t strike anyone he shouldn’t have been arrested.  But I also saw a man in the ER curse out a doctor b/c her had to wait too long, knowing that the Dr was about to sew up three gashes in the idiot’s leg (from trying to move a 50 gallon fish tank full of water), with or without local anesthesia.  Public servants get tired of being disrespected for doing their job to the best of their ability too, and maybe they just heard all they wanted…

Again, I wasn’t there and neither were you, and neither was Al Sharpton or anyone else running this up the flagpole.

I understand things happen.  I understand driving while black.  I was asked to get out of a car in Rogers, AR.  White driver, pulled over b/c it didn’t have tags, it was brand new.  I was the passenger.  The cops wanted my ID, and wanted us to both get out of the car, and wanted to search it.  They thought I was hiding something, b/c I had on a big starter jacket…in Dec.

This wasn’t profiling.  Someone was actually breaking into the home…what transpired after they arrived?  I dunno.

Wood: First of all *bleep* Al Sharpton and *bleep*Jesse Jackson…Randy, Tito, and Action.   Now back to what I’m saying.  I’d like to put this in perspective.  Debbie leaves a box behind the door, she’s sleep and doesn’t answer the door.  You start shouldering your way in and your neighbor calls the cops.  Boom… First issue.   They know you live there, so that bull.  Now the cops show up. 

 

Cops: Sir do you live here? 

 

Chris:  Why yes officer. (you explain to him about the box obstructing your entry).

 

Cops:  Can I see some ID?

 

Chris:  Why?

 

Cops:  I need to verify you live here.

 

Chris:  Why do you need to see my ID?  Because I’m a long haired rocker I can’t stay in a nice place.  I told you I live here that should be enough.  I just came in from out of town.  Those are my bags.  (You’re irate because you can’t get into your house and nosey a** Mrs. Johnson just called the cops on you.  Some how she was vigilant enough to call the cops but not vigilant enough to realize you stay there.)

 

Cops: Just show us your ID.

 

Chris:  Here is my Harvard Badge.  (It was the first thing you could get to.  Harvard is the most prestigious University in the country.  Him being a Cambridge officer and being able to hit Harvard on speed dial more than likely makes him more than likely an expert on a Harvard ID.)  

 

Cops:  Let me see your other ID.  (Oh okay sir have a nice day. “ Good luck on getting in your house,” is what he should have said).

 

Chris:  Here.  (You are really pissed.)

 

Cops:  (“Okay sir I see your address is on this card.  Have a nice day,”  is what should have happened.)

That’s not what happened.  Somewhere between there and 4 hours in jail I will concede that I don’t know what happen.  But even if he hurled expletives at them for hours after, the fact is he didn’t touch them and that was his porch.  He shouldn’t have went to jail.  Plain and simple.  That is not acting disorderly in a public space if I’m on my porch and I’m not flashing people or hurting someone.

C-Mac: I’m inclined to agree.  I don’t think he should have been arrested.  But if he was, it could have been because he was a prick, not a black man.  I could be wrong.  They may be card carrying neo-Nazi dillweeds.  I dunno. 

 

Back to the original point.  I think that Obama referring to them as “stupid” was a poor choice.  Mistaken, “could have been handled more delicately,” even “overreacted.”  But stoopid?  Too much.

 

Kev, what’s your slant?

Wood: You know for a man that likes to throw around stoopid a lot, I can’t believe you would get mad at the President for calling someone stupid when they did something stupid.  It was stupid to do and they were stupid for doing it.

C-Mac: Every mistake doesn’t make someone stoopid.  I feel like I have to argue the other side b/c you’re so strongly in support of hating the cops.  Since Jeff’s on vacation…

Wood: First of all I don’t hate anyone.  I just think they acted stupid.  And the President didn’t call them stupid he said they acted stupidly.  He said…”I don’t know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played,” Basically saying what you said.  I don’t know if they did it because he was black or acting like a prick, but there was no reason to arrest him.

C-Mac: I would agree.  I don’t think being a cranky old man is grounds for an arrest…even if you have a chip on your shoulder.  It’s not far fetched at all for me to imagine my Grandad in the same situation…except that his neighbors would recognize him.  That part of the story is a little far fetched.

Kev: Stupidly, irrationally, unintelligently, potato, potatoe.  The police owe him an apology.  Plain and simple.  I would be moody, irate, and belligerent if I was arrested in my yard for disorderly conduct b/c you don’t believe I live there.  The only thing Gates is in the wrong about is being defensive when initially asked for ID, which he should be if you have been coming home the past 5 years and a policeman thinks you’re breaking into your own home. 

C-Mac: FINE!  I’ll quit playing Devil’s advocate.  There’s no reason that he should have been arrested.  It was too much.

“How ‘Bout That?”

Tuesday, July 21st, 2009

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I have a very cool Uncle that has a phrase that he uses when he here’s something that totally floors him.  Sort of like, “Ain’t that a b****,”  or, “Ain’t that some s***!”  Well I was driving the other day, and I happen to see a cop.  Now as a black man I have a natural aversion to the police, but I’m particularly nervous because I didn’t have my seat belt on.  The last thing I need is 15 warning shots in my back because I didn’t have my seatbelt on, and when I go to reach for my license and registration the cop thinks “I’m reaching for a gun”.  So I slyly reach to put my seatbelt on (To all the cops out there, can you really tell when someone doesn’t have there seatbelt on unless you are real close?  And further would you care to pull them over for such and offense?)  But back to my moment… So I look in front of me, and guess what I see???  I see a biker without a helmet on.  Now lets examine this… A biker can ride around without a helmet on by law without any protection, but it’s against the law for to ride around in a cocoon of metal and plastic without a seat belt on????  “How ’bout that” ?


Well since my mind tends to wander.  I started thinking about other “How ’bout that” moments:

Like it’s okay for me to vote, smoke, go get blown up in war at 18, but I can’t drink until I’m 21.  “How ’bout that” ?

I was considered a gifted child so no one gave me anything for making good grades, but a dumb student made a C and he got a Starter coat (This was back when Starter was cool enough to get shot over). “How ’bout that” ?

I have more, but I thought I would open it up to the floor…  Tell me of your “How ’bout that”  moments.